Pirates who SWEAR they are not pirates are insulting to me, LOL!

[Dr Fred]

Do you mean canard? cant find a meaning for Cunnard anywhere.

The suggestion that the person in question is apparently claiming to be a music PUBLISHER, otherwise they could not be simultaniously a member of both ASCAP AND BMI.
ONLY PUBLISHERS CAN BE IN BOTH GROUPS.

The purpose of the groups is to collect money and pay SONGWRITERS for public performance of their music. That includes cover versions of those songs being performed by ANY artists who did not write the songs themselves. THe publishers are allowed to join the groups because they often aquire the rights or act as agents for the SONGWRITERS.

Now I find it very doubtful that this person has rights to the thousands of songs from the origional songwriters or is acting as thier agent. I also find it pretty useless to have thousands of songs that this guy may have written himself as karaoke versions.

So all that is going on here is that a person is claiming to have not violated rules of an organization that does not govern his "crimes". Music publishers and artists are the force against the song copying piracy, not ASCAP/BMI.

I stand by my statement that he has no need to be a member either group as a PUBLISHER for his activities regarding karaoke. If he is a artist in his own right and he made some karaoke versions of his own songs, then he could not be a member of both, he would have to choose one or the other.

Sure he could be a "member" of either group, but he would just be paying registration fee, and then be ignored by them because I doubt he has any songs getting any radio play which is how the reimbursment is calculated.

But with the origional post the he is talking about "DUES" and ASCAP/BMI do charge a fee to join (registration fee) for musicians/publishers. That is the DUES the origional post talked about. The fees that ASCAP/BMI charge venues are not membership dues.

On a secondary note, 150,000 songs in a 500 gb hard drive is not high enough sampling rates to be high quality. The songs sold by tricerasoft are about 6-7 mb on average ZIPPED. That means 150,000 songs should take up nearly 900 GB if sampled at a reasonable bitrate even if they are zipped, unzipped it would be far more.

[mrgadget01]

BigJer @ Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:42 pm wrote:

Maybe we should make him a generous offer and buy just his discs, he can keep his hard drive.

Actually had that happen! Found an Ebay auction for Sound Choice Foundation and Bricks. It was for the discs. I won and received the original SC discs.

However, the guy emailed me to tell me he was taking time to copy the discs before he sent them. Then I find auctions on Ebay for the exact same package on a hard drive. I emailed him and ridiculed him for what he was doing and he pulled the ad. Then I find it on Craigslist.

Gotta love it!

[Murray C]

Dr Fred @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:35 am wrote:

Do you mean canard? cant find a meaning for Cunnard anywhere.

Brought up visions of karaoke on the QEII

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So all that is going on here is that a person is claiming to have not violated rules of an organization that does not govern his "crimes". Music publishers and artists are the force against the song copying piracy, not ASCAP/BMI.

Exactly! And don't you just love the part about his lawyer's advice? D'ya think any copyright lawyer would know that?

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But with the origional post the he is talking about "DUES" and ASCAP/BMI do charge a fee to join (registration fee) for musicians/publishers. That is the DUES the origional post talked about. The fees that ASCAP/BMI charge venues are not membership dues.

I think you are referring to this in the original post:

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However basically if you take your due diligence in "private presentations” and pay your ASCAP and or BMI dues you are covered...

I don't think he was referring to "dues" as being the registration fee. I took it as being his misguided inference that if you, the karaoke host, pay the fees for public performance, then you are covered for any legalities.

mrgadget01 @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:21 am wrote:

However, the guy emailed me to tell me he was taking time to copy the discs before he sent them. Then I find auctions on Ebay for the exact same package on a hard drive. I emailed him and ridiculed him for what he was doing and he pulled the ad. Then I find it on Craigslist.

.. you should've told him you were a legal rep from SC!

[johnny reverb]

Webster defines Cunnard as, noun; one who is afraid to perform oral sex on a female... ........hybrid word combining coward and yum yum(oh gee, they edited my word.....good edit).....

[timberlea]

Murray, that would be Cunard as in Smauel Cunard, the Halifax, Nova Scotia born who founded the British and North American Royal Mail Steam Packet Company in 1840, which evolved into the present day Cunard Line. Thus endeth the history lesson.

[Murray C]

I never knew Samuel Cunard was Canadian! Thanks for the info. And yes, I was jesting on the use of the word (or non-word) CUNNARD in relation to discussion on ASCAP and BMI. When I saw that, I had a chuckle at the possibility of the discussion turning towards licensing live performances on Cunard's cruise ships!

[tovmod]

Generally speaking, my spelling is impeccable. And while I can find deficiencies with the spelling of many other contributors, I find it interesting exactly who the people are that attack others for their spelling.

95% of the posters spell "definite" incorrectly as "definate". Only a small mind with a limited grasp and flimsy logic resorts to personal attacks. Which is exactly how you began your response to me - a personal attack suggesting that I lacked (CRITICAL) information about membership in ASCAP.

Well, I still stand by my post as it directly referred to the pirates "offer". He implied that the purchasers of his property could retain and maintain legal ownership to what he was selling by becoming members in good standing of ASCAP & BMI.

Now, play all the games you want with semantics and my conclusion and declaration that those organizations are not (the type of) membership organizations (that the general public can casually join). And if you don't understand that, it says more about you than about me!

I fully understand what those organizations do, who they represent, and what their "membership" consist of. Perhaps you are the one who is gaining from the additional input of others who have been providing specifics about the nature of being a "member" in those organizations?

[butsie13]

Is BLOWHARD a bad word?

[Moonrider]

[Murray C]

butsie13 @ Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:52 am wrote:

Is BLOWHARD a bad word?

Definately not!

[johnny reverb]

Murray C @ Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:19 am wrote:

butsie13 @ Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:52 am wrote:

Is BLOWHARD a bad word?

Definately not!

well of course it's not a bad word, but the action itself, when taken litterally, can result in some very inflated testicles........

[Karen K]

HHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEE'S JOHNNY! He's back...loud and proud. You crack me up.

[johnny reverb]

loud, but not really proud......just can't help myself.....kinda like internet tourette syndromette......

ps....actually, some of my best posts never stay up very long on here..... ....I try to use words and phrases that only a mind in the gutter could figure out(at least most of the time), but they still kill many of my posts......all I can do is .....keep trying....

[Karen K]

Gotta love a good dose of tenacity.

[johnny reverb]

Karen K @ Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:01 pm wrote:

Gotta love a good dose of tenacity.

hmmmmm, not familiar with that word, now I know it can't mean either thought in my head, because I know I only have two arms, and I've made an a$$ out of myself......more than 10 times.....

[jerry12x]

tovmod @ Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:20 am wrote:

Generally speaking, my spelling is impeccable. And while I can find deficiencies with the spelling of many other contributors, I find it interesting exactly who the people are that attack others for their spelling.

Being dislexic I must rememmber not to atack anyone.

[tovmod]

butsie13 @ Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:52 am wrote:

Is BLOWHARD a bad word?

definAtely,

Well, atcually it deppendz on just how HARRD you plan to do it

And was that orally or aurally?

Just what do you have in mined?